I have a peeve about the BBC genealogical show Who do you think you are? which I dont know whether has been inflected upon the Left Pond. Olusoga is just getting even because he was attacked by the right when he was a teenager. If one disproves his assertions would slavery then be okay? His exposure to Nigerian culture seems quite limited. Read about our approach to external linking. Societies have what morals suit them. The Barbados slave code of 1661 stripped Africans of all human rights, and set out ways in which they were to be punished, to exert control over their labour (mutilation of the face, slitting of nostrils, castration, execution). Hey, we do not even have to go that far. Should black history be taught all year round? The strongest argument I can see for reparations is not that white people bear some kind of ancestral blame. Very often shaped by the political, technological and economic forces of the times if the Western way of life had remained utterly dependent on Roman-style slavery, Im not sure wed ever have abolished it even amongst our own inhabitants. Nor do I think that sugar is worse than cotton. Oblong, Vikings took slaves, including exporting Anglo-Saxons (you must have heard the quote Non Angli, sed Angeli about the English slaves being sold in Italy? Black and British: A Forgotten History Surely the US has already spent much more than that on black Americans. Prof Olusoga, the presenter of the A House Through Time TV series, calls it an act of "historical salvage" to bring to the fore the black British figures who had been "lost in the archives, completely forgotten". "They do not want British history to be a catalogue of heroes and victories and glorious chapters," he says. The Sokoto Caliphate probably had as many slaves and a lot fewer free men as the Old South. Then, in October, came a breakthrough. If you are wracked with guilt, ashamed of your forebears, do it! Like I need to hand my cash to the next lass of Rus descent I see, lest she remind me of some unlucky slave-girl that may or may not have perished at the hands of my maybe-ancestors? To me personally, this is the thing. many African tribes kept slaves. I doubt that they are now firmly united in a common cause. Have you ever read the account by Ibn Fadlan of a Viking funeral in Russia? Thy did not try to grow or raise the next generation. His book is a product of that childhood terror, and partly an exploration of his condition as a black Briton. Then the second. 5 quotes from David Olusoga: 'On a peninsula protruding into one of the great highways of the Atlantic slave trade, a few hundred refugees from British slavery in North America were attempting to recreate the social structures of Northern Europe in the Middle Ages.', 'Time and again events and phenomena that we think we know and understand contain within them lost or camouflaged connections to . Will Britain change? It died out with the Romans leaving, and its non-legality repeatedly reaffirmed from the reign of the early Normans onwards.. (At least in our society) Get over it. Olusoga poses as an objective historian and says he is not there to bring comfort to people. His rhetoric is to inflame the reader. There is an alternative argument that it is their ancestors who were wronged hence deserve compensation and as descendants theyre entitled to an inherited share (so their portion depends on how many slaves at what position in the family tree) plus interest, regardless of how well theyre doing now. Not sure theyd do that with modern sensibilities mind you. West Indians fought with the Allies more than a hundred were decorated. I think it's an astonishing achievement.". But its still awful, even on a historical scale. There is the Push argument and the Pull argument. You know, entirely ignoring lifetime effects? It built slave forts on the African coast, some such as Bunce Island in Sierra Leone furnished with a rape house. And, of course, being half white, he is only entitled to half the reparation payment. It isnt happening now. The rest apart from Ireland (17, partly due to influence of aforementioned Patrick) set it younger. But werent they lucky compared to the other Germans in Stalingrad? Indeed, third-century York may have been more ethnically and racially diverse than present-day York. Even did something positive. As a nation, we still have only a dim understanding of the slave system that funded Sloanes collecting. If we look back history is just an unending series of atrocities. Rather that certain western states, still in existence therefore potentially still liable, regulated and indeed encouraged the development of both the transatlantic slave trade and the slave-labour economic systems of the colonies, at scales that were unusual in the long and varied history of slavery, and levels of brutality that stood out too. He seems to be an interesting social historian and his TV series on the occupants of a single house over the centuries is very good, although I suspect a lot of the research is done by others, I look forward to an even handed expose of the entire slave trade from birth to capture, imprisonment, sale, transportation, arrival, sale, treatment and life while enslaved as well as the UKs role in stopping it, But it wont be on the BBC, and he wont be writing it I fear, @smfs It happened. In America few were castrated, which is why there are now >40 million descendants there. Exactly, bis. That someone did something 200 years ago means double ought nothing.. No one has said we should not consider someone elses viewpoint. White people will take it. The best and brightest minds in the UK defended Stalins slavery. You might have heard of a Romano-British chap called Patrick, got enslaved and nabbed to Ireland? (Britain expended blood and treasure on ending the slave trade, and thereby paid its moral debt already is one way of trying to resolve it, but rather unsatisfactory at righting the wrongs done to those who had already fallen victim to the trade.) Whitey bad, give me cash? Particularly as nowadays anyone who dares even look at someone a few days below the age of consent is believed to be an incorrigible nonce who deserves hanging, castration, or castration by hanging. The people in Portland, Seattle and Kenosha are too decadent to fight back. (Im just presenting the case here in reality there are obviously some big questions about the logic of Nuremberg etc, just as there are questions about how judges in Common Law occasionally summon up things as if they had always and forever been a part of the Law, albeit previously unrecorded, rather than something the judge just made up.). By this logic, we ought to sue the African American community. Equiano is also mentioned in Incomparable World, a novel by SI Martin, which was selected by Booker award-winning author Bernardine Evaristo for her Black Britain: Writing Back series. Looking at what happened in Haiti or Jamaica or chunks of Latin America, I dont find either well, could have been much worse or what do you expect, Early Modern West Europeans, how could they have known better? to be particularly convincing responses. They did not care much for adult males. We do not know how great the demand for women was. Even discussing it gives your opponents arguments merit. Cheap ass presentism. First launched in London in 1987, it aims to highlight and celebrate what black people have achieved in Britain throughout history. That may have caused more violence. It was an apt university to experiment with such developments, since Lord Scarman, who reported on the Brixton riots of 1981, was its chancellor. 7 years was the average working lifespan so it is said. If someone from Portugal or France wants to explain why their country has done a better job of getting the balance right, Im open to hearing it. Re putting the argument for paedophilia they actually gave Gide the Nobel prize for literature didnt they? In the case of slavery the answer is clear. To be honest, I was a bit sceptical about the Olympics coming to London, but the atmosphere across the capital was genuinely wonderful . Thousands of petitions were presented to parliament. The world has seen more slavery since its abolition than before. people like Olusoga would have to pay their share of the greatly increased taxes "He was the voice of somebody who wasn't speaking about the past as a historian, but was living it. "I don't know why this generation has a different relationship with the past, goes to the past, expecting and looking for different things to earlier generations, but that's really is my observation about them," he says adding the internet has played a huge part. Why are these characterizations needed? Married an American GI after the war. And yet Africans and West Indians were banned from the victory parade in 1919. He was Chairman of Moneysupermarket Group from 2014 to 2019 and Senior Independent Director of Close Brothers Group plc from 2006 to 2014 and is a Past President of the Chartered Management Institute. (and white people was pretty much the British). Youre right, MBE. What do you think their stongest argument is? Required fields are marked *. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr_Gide, Less flippantly, Western countries are not of one mind when it comes to the age of consent sex with a 14 year-old is legal in some countries, criminal in others (yes yes, paedophilia versus ephebophilia etc, you got me). What is their strongest argument? Nineteen eighty-four affected him in another way: the publication of Peter Fryers groundbreaking Staying Power: The History of Black People in Britain introduced him to the scholarship needed to understand his position in Britain. Peter completed his award-winning PhD, exploring stress and coping in elite sports coaching, at Sheffield Hallam in 2012. I brought up paedophilia to demonstrate that there are things not worth my time. (As the first person to mention the Sokoto Caliphate ahh, forget it.). Some other buyer would have taken them if they werent shipped out, and Western (or Arab) traders were just changing the ownership and location, the sins of the slave-raiders being theirs alone to bear. The Celtic version of slavery (which ran to quite a different model) was still going on in the places the Romans didnt reach. "The small minority whose history had been airbrushed out of the national story recovered that history with the help of their allies and then broadcast it, spread it into our national conversation and they did that within the space of half a century. I hadnt gotten far when she stopped me cold, pointing out that her best friend, a 15 year old girl knitting beside a window in her house, was machine gunned by an American P-51 pilot. The details of difference are fairly minor. Not sure how sick this makes me. You dont have esoteric discussions with paedophiles any more than you would with serial killers. One issue about Westerners buying slaves via a chain of commerce that often ultimately involved Africans selling other Africans at traditional slave-trading locations (there was some slave-raiding by Europeans directly, but rarer) is that the extra demand distorted the market, led directly to more armed slave-raiding expeditions against rival tribes and so on. So he calls himself a Geordie. Olusogas stated purpose is to argue that black British history is not about migration and settlement, whether of black servants in the 18th century or black workers in the Windrush era. People seem pretty much agreed on what is right and what is wrong. Hundreds of White women raped every day. Olusoga, who is half-Nigerian, traces this focus to his mother telling him when he was a child that Nigerian soldiers served in World War II. Check out the trailer for Peter Pan & Wendy, an upcoming live-action movie directed by David Lowery. Dr Peter Olusoga is a senior psychology lecturer at Sheffield Hallam university. A renowned economist has said that $12 trillion should be afforded to black Americans in reparation for slavery to help the close wealth gap.. Once insignificant villages, great cities such as Liverpool, Bristol and Glasgow sprang up on the profits of slavery. We do not know for sure. Jamaicans and Nigerians used to hate each other. And the transatlantic slave trade? Between that night at the opera and 1807, nearly 800,000 Africans were enslaved. It is a political campaign, not a contribution to academic history. Theres a flaw in arguments of the form frankly you should be glad I murdered your sister, since had I not done so, its quite possible though we cannot be sure that someone else would have tortured her then murdered her, which is even worse, so whos the real criminal? Which is that I still murdered your sister. Separated from home and family and landed in the West Indies (countless numbers dying of suffocation during the journey, given that the people traffickers were packing the holds to maximise profits), the Africans had no recourse to the law, much less the conscience of their captors. P rofessor David Olusoga is reviewing a disorientating year from a familiar place: his white-painted study, the one with the guitars hanging from its walls. I am happy with Olusogo paying reparations to himself. David then moved with his mother and three siblings in the north-east of the UK. In that moment, his interest in history overlapped. Wider imperialism reparations that include South Asia, China for the Opium Wars and so on, surely even more prohibitively costly, regardless of how effective the education system gets at making young Brits feel a vague sense of guilt about it all. Maybe Europeans did increase demand. It was, I believe, the first book I ever bought for myself with my own money. Video, 00:02:30. "This is a richer history as well as a necessary history; this is a more vivid history as well as a history that tells the back stories of more people in this country than the traditional narratives we've had.". Should black history be taught all year round? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestmannaeyjar, Slavery in England definitely continued for a couple of generations after the Norman Conquest and Bristol was a major export centre, though there were attempts to ban the export trade in particular (https://www.historytoday.com/archive/normans-and-slavery-breaking-bonds has some interesting quotes from the time). Quick and essential guide to domestic and global politics from the New Statesman's politics team. When Olusoga recalled the experience before television cameras last year, he wept. Sugar plantations were bad. It is about the centuries-long engagement with Africa, a consequence of which is the black presence in Britain. Its entirely possible to think something was awful without feeling the slightest twinge of guilt or personal responsibility. TV historian David Olusoga claims it is "palpable nonsense" to say that removing controversial statues "somehow impoverishes history". Oh man. Forbes magazine's extraordinarily arrogant contributor Tim Worstall Jeremy Corbyn. The Westman Islands of Iceland have an interesting history in terms of European slavery a major rebellion of presumably mostly Irish (Westmen) slaves was put down there in the typically brutal Scandinavian manner, hence the name, but in the 1600s the local inhabitants were themselves enslaved by Barbary pirates and taken to Algiers, from where a few were ransomed back and one wrote about the experience. He previously worked at JP Morgan for 18 years in a number of senior roles and was . From Roots. My great grandfather fought to end slavery in a war. (I suppose it makes a point about blame not being distributed homogeneously, or that a certain group of people shouldnt be guilted just because they share the same colour of skin with another bunch of people you do think are guilty. David Olusoga's Family David Olusoga, age 49 was born to a Nigerian father and a British mother. But that ignores how the demand of outsiders led inevitably to far more supply being provided, so I dont think the traders can be given a pass on this front either. A newsletter showcasing the finest writing from the ideas section, covering political ideas, philosophy, criticism and intellectual history - sent every Wednesday. In fact he is a biased political campaigner working to attack and do as much damage to Britain as he can. Dr Peter Olusoga is a Senior Lecturer in Psychology. This is a moral argument. Thats fine, BraveFart. Then the adult men became profitable too. The book accompanying. Various among the societies that were agglomerated into Nigeria were more or less involved in that slave trade from the supply end. I just dont really get what Olusoga is saying. The Benin Dialogue Group announced it had brokered an agreement that will see "some of the most iconic" of the bronzes returned to Benin City, Nigeria, where they will be housed in the soon-to-be-built Benin Royal Museum. Whoever has the upper-hand in power political, cultural, economic, military or whatever other form is decisive at that moment. Video1894 shipwreck confirms tale of treacherous lifeboat, How 10% of Nigerian registered voters delivered victory, Sake brewers toast big rise in global sales, The Indian-American CEO who wants to be US president, Blackpink lead top stars back on the road in Asia, Exploring the rigging claims in Nigeria's elections, 'Wales is in England' gaffe sparks TikToker's trip. Long after he had published Corydon, his defence of pederasty. They included Josiah Wedgwood (the pottery entrepreneur), Granville Sharp and Thomas Clarkson. Shouldnt Olusoga be writing in Ubangi bantu-language? Id say theres enormous dangers in treating this as if it was some public school debating society gig. Women such as Elizabeth Heyrick continued to lobby for the abolition of slavery. Would the good professor really be so different if genealogical records could prove he had African ancestors who owned African slaves? As Black British History Month draws to a close, TV historian Prof David Olusoga looks at the impact it's had - and how young people are taking it on. And Britain worked for the whole of the 19th century to put down slavery in Africa. Its a replay of the ecology nutters & the trannies. He updates Fryer, citing radioisotope analysis of skeletons and craniometrics, which support written documentation of Aurelian Moors guarding Hadrians Wall and settling in places such as Yorkshire. The historian and producer said he wanted to. They are now CM scum and couldnt care less about America. Shipwrecked off the coast of Africa, he, and other survivors, were taken by an African tribe as captives. The argument isnt whether historical slavery was right or wrong or who should accept responsibility for it. And the third, fourth, fifth, and so on. When I met her, ~1995, I started asking her questions about the war, as I thought she was a fabulous resource of information. Id say the same to the Black Lives Matter people. In 1796, a bill was defeated by only four votes: a group of abolitionist MPs went to the opera and missed the vote. They arent going to concede anything. History is just one awful thing after another. Later his parents separated from each other when he was just two years old. The publication in 1852 of Uncle Toms Cabin, by the American abolitionist Harriet Beecher Stowe, swelled national sympathy for the plight of black slaves. By a Senegalese author: The veiled genocide = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxc5ENT8ajg, MyBurningEars August 30, 2020 at 11:52 am Slavery within West African societies being different again I dont think the places with very high rates of local slavery were anything like the sugar plantations. It seems absurd to me that anyone should be concerned about what happened 200 or 500 years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxc5ENT8ajg, https://www.history.co.uk/shows/the-real-vikings/articles/eyewitness-to-the-vikings, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestmannaeyjar, https://www.historytoday.com/archive/normans-and-slavery-breaking-bonds, https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/domesday/world-of-domesday/order.htm, Apparently Essay Mills Must Be Made Illegal, Why Oxfam Can Go Boil Their Heads Over Vaccine Patents, The real point about climate change is how cheap the solution is, The excellent Tim Worstall- The Register, Tim Worstall is a darn good economist- Don Boudreaux, Tim Worstall, you pendant- Polly Toynbee, .more sensible than most right wing nutjob bloggersBob Piper. Needless to say they should pay us reparations for this too. I assume he is not very bright and Race Hustling is very lucrative. "They were barely known even to historians. More than a million copies were sold in Britain cheap pirated versions reached a mass readership. If you think 14 is the wrong decision for the boundary, a better argument is a rebuttal of the strongest case for 14 rather than a rebuttal of a straw-man version of it. It is a good deed that must not go unpunished. The exception is Tim Worstall, who is truly the Ron Jeremy of blogging. If we went down this route thered be goodness knows how much fun and games to be had with legal claims over the treatment of Irish by Cromwell, the clearing of the Highlands and so on, before you even get on to the globe-spanning imperial stuff. He writes to inflame white guilt, so that you will ACCEPT destruction of your culture. . He talks about slavery because YOU care. Do I feel like I had anything to do it? Id agree that attitudes in the UK are approaching that situation, but theres still a long, long way to go yet. Thats before you get on to the Khoisan and the Zulus, the Carthaginians and Romans, the Vikings versus pretty much anyone else who lived within raiding distance, Theres a fundamental weakness with all theories of universal law or justice, which is that across time and space, the human conception of what is right and just seems to be extremely varied and rarely (to modern Western eyes) pleasant. Black history: Should it be part of the wider curriculum? Anybody can do this. And so, equipped with the fruits of Islamic learning (new navigational instruments, books on astronomy and trigonometry), European explorers set sail for Africa to relieve the natives of their gold. Tim says there might be some truth to them for the Caribbean. Giles Terera, the Olivier award-winning British performer who starred in the popular theatre production Hamilton, has . A fifty quid note in the hand of the first black bloke you encounter. In the UK its not white people enslaving blacks anymore, but Asians enslaving other Asians, as in Leicesters clothing sweatshops. All in all your typical West African is far more likely to have ancestral connections to the slave trade than your typical Brit. MBE: The problem with the UK paying reparations is that people like Olusoga would have to pay their share of the greatly increased taxes. Joining them is Psychologist and Lecturer at Lancaster University, Dr David Tod, for a fascinating conversation about the psychology of acting. It may have made sense for the SS to starve labourers to death. This is because forgetting slavery means forgetting its victims. The New Statesmans global affairs newsletter, every Monday and Friday. And they will go looking for parts of the past that aren't on the curriculum, and they evidently do. I suspect that whether records could prove it or not, its overwhelmingly likely to be true, especially since high-status individuals tend to make a bigger contribution to the gene pool. Wrong ?!?! Should almost go without saying except of course that it doesnt, since clearly not every culture has the same moral gut reaction to it that I do. David Olusoga Historian, broadcaster and film-maker. One of his teachers had a coffee mug bearing a National Front slogan and another attacked him during a school trip, he said. Nevertheless, we live in a society that generally regards slavery as an absolute and eternal wrong, and a grave one at that, yet which has historically (at least certain people and places, and including the state itself) benefited from imposing slavery on others. It could have ended earlier, but the planter interests in parliament defeated William Wilberforces attempts. As he states, The oral history of 20th-century racial violence has never been collected or collated, but it is thereand it is shocking.. Nobody will stop you, honest. This year, return to Neverland. Some were sold to other African tribes and the rest kept as slaves. Rapidly promoted to sergeant, then second lieutenant, he led white British troops into action and died in 1918, having been mentioned in despatches and recommended for the Military Cross. Was never entirely sure which bits were believed and which bits were just a fun bit of intellectual muscle-flexing couldnt all have been intended seriously since so many posts contradicted each other. I learned the hard way. In 1787, they met in London and set up the Society for Effecting the Abolition of the Slave Trade. Would, say, Huguenot-descended South Africans suing France over the 1572 St. Bartholomews Day massacre, or Cornish people suing HMG for the suppression of the 1497 Rebellion, deserve compensation?. David Olusoga, introduces his book Black and British, an exploration of the relationship between the British Isles and the people of Africa. I am not so sure about that although it is another argument. In 1986 I came across the book Staying Power by the British journalist Peter Fryer. No doubt life expectancy of a slave was shorter than that for a free man. Slaves were crowded in a new environment with new diseases. Then dont discuss it. We do not know enough to be sure. Olusoga was born in Lagos to a White mother and a Nigerian father - who, I hate to say nautrally, did a runner. Different people can argue the toss from different viewpoints and perspectives but in many ways their arguments pass each other like ships in the night, because they havent all got nobodys got an absolute frame of reference to judge things with respect to. I know. Fryers book was monumental, inspiring conferences, publications, the setting up of local history groups, the establishment of Black History Month, and radio and television programmes. December 2020. The Russians do not have these problems because they are not ashamed. I was uncomfortable using it. Prof Olusoga says statues, such as those of slave traders . "We are on a journey in this country and other countries are on similar journeys to try and reconnect to parts of our history that had traditionally been edited out," adds Prof Olusoga. He has discovered new and exciting research materials in African archives, among them the Register of Liberated Africans in Sierra Leone, which list names, bodily details, ethnicity and origins, thus putting a human face on people otherwise treated as fodder and statistics. His choice of subject and his choice of material make that very clear. . 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